Borodino map update!

[oster1815]

Your hypotheses is perfectly realist if it coincide with the species of trees in your area. The end result will probably be the same : light cover and difficult terrain to maintain close order,  but not enough to prevent the advance of infantry.
I'll check my book tomorrow and try pictures but Hourtoulle used the old map as a clear grey background with units positions and moves superposed in color... probably impossible to scan.
The book is Borodino by Dr Hourtoulle , ca 2003 edit. by Armes et Collections in French and in English. Maybe you can find one in your library ( there are many other napoleonic battles from the same author/edition) all are well illustrated specially for uniforms and portraits with biographies, also quite good OOB. more details tomorrow if you wish.
Oster

:oops:Misleading datas : the reference for the book is : La Moskowa - Borodino , la bataille des redoutes_  by F.G.HOURTOULLE . Published by Histoire et Collections-Paris,anno 2000.
Sorry for the mistakes

[Jacquinot]

Your hypotheses is perfectly realist if it coincide with the species of trees in your area. The end result will probably be the same : light cover and difficult terrain to maintain close order,  but not enough to prevent the advance of infantry.
I'll check my book tomorrow and try pictures but Hourtoulle used the old map as a clear grey background with units positions and moves superposed in color... probably impossible to scan.
The book is Borodino by Dr Hourtoulle , ca 2003 edit. by Armes et Collections in French and in English. Maybe you can find one in your library ( there are many other napoleonic battles from the same author/edition) all are well illustrated specially for uniforms and portraits with biographies, also quite good OOB. more details tomorrow if you wish.
Oster

[EDIT JMM] Thank you i try to download ... [deleted ]

[Jacquinot]

Funny book with funny pictures, but on first battle plan the Fleches deployment is wrong.

[Jacquinot]

But i like very much scary picture of Russian militia, nice dumb message to French players from man with axe!

[oster1815]

Glad you found my contribution useful and managed to download the book, there are 5 or 6 from the same team.
But what is " torrent" ?
Oster
It was the man who fell the trees ? (...to run away  faster, no?

[Jacquinot]

Glad you found my contribution useful and managed to download the book, there are 5 or 6 from the same team.
But what is " torrent" ?
Oster
It was the man who fell the trees ? (...to run away  faster, no?

Torrent it's program like eMule - file exchange program.

Yea, to French army can run away faster from Russia

[Jacquinot]

I found one more fantastic picture
 If we have Grand redoubt like in this book i think French army was totaly desyroyed, in reality he was build in 25 august and have very small height of breastwork because Russian army haven't time to complete work.

[Jacquinot]

Pictures from new map:

1) Shevardino redoubt.
2) Bagration's fleches.
3) Grand redoubt (lunette).
4) Gorky's redoubts (redans)

[Jacquinot]

5) Maslov's fleches.

[oster1815]

Torrent it's program like eMule - file exchange program.

Yea, to French army can run away faster from Russia

Thanks, Great pictures from Borodino, congratulations 
Hourtoulle used  many Boutourlin's maps and sketchs , was he a Russian or French ?
Oster

[Count von Csollich]

WOW - very nice map - I see you took your time to work on the details! - very impressive!

[Bruguière]

What a nice map !!! Thanks....

[Jacquinot]

Thanks, Great pictures from Borodino, congratulations 
Hourtoulle used  many Boutourlin's maps and sketchs , was he a Russian or French ?
Oster

Boutourlins - it is old Russian noble clan. Boutourlin Dmitry Petrovich was Russian war historian.

[oster1815]

Boutourlins - it is old Russian noble clan. Boutourlin Dmitry Petrovich was Russian war historian

Thanks Jacquinot,

Do you have easy access to biographies or genealogic datas from old Russia ?  I mean ca. 1600/1800....

I hope Axeman returned safe to Babushka and found a good bortsch with  pirojkies to regain strength

It is just the end of the beginning

oster

Ps: I tried Torrent but found only movies or TV -mostly XXXX - were are the books ?

[JMM]

Hello,

Please, on this Forum, it's not possible to talk about Torrent and other tools for exchanging stuff... just for respecting the copyright and other laws.

JMM