Belgium Campaign 1815

[vonJaeger]

Hi guys, you might find this useful. Its an extract from General Dessales' memoirs published after his death. He was given command of the Grand Battery at waterloo. Its not conclusive but gives a hint on where the battery might of been during the battle. 

http://www.1789-1815.com/dessales.htm

[Jacquinot]

Hi guys, you might find this useful. Its an extract from General Dessales' memoirs published after his death. He was given command of the Grand Battery at waterloo. Its not conclusive but gives a hint on where the battery might of been during the battle.  

http://www.1789-1815.com/dessales.htm

All what i can understand with Google translator, that general Ruty give order to Dessales take positions more in advance, but what was after that i can understand, can you translate briefly?

[Alfiere]

I undestand few but:
1)54 guns
2)deploy at the start near 1° corp, then near road of Belle Alliance
3)move the ART is a danger etc etc
(is not knowed when exacty move the ART , but I heard that move after attack of d'Erlon to support him,only 12 pdrs)

4)after he moved ART there was the charge of english CAV .....
but wait someone that translate better of me,only intersting points.

very interesting

[Jacquinot]

I undestand few but:
1)54 guns
2)deploy at the start near 1° corp, then near road of Belle Alliance
3)move the ART is a danger etc etc
(is not knowed when exacty move the ART , but I heard that move after attack of d'Erlon to support him,only 12 pdrs)

4)after he moved ART there was the charge of english CAV .....
but wait someone that translate better of me.

very interesting

1. Im undestand that Labedyaer give order from Emperor to place battary with 84 guns but in reality was only 54 guns ready to fire. Im wright? Google translator not prefect.
2. I dont see any mention about place where stand grand battary, only order to move more in advance.

[Alfiere]

There also the description of the start deploy ....

[Jacquinot]

And one more interesting information about Muton corps on this site!

http://www.1789-1815.com/wat_cartes01.htm

Im play my and Alfiere version of Waterloo battle in saturday and at 13.30 im move back English left flang behind the ridge, i think for this situation if i dont know about Prussians best order its move Muton corps to the right and smash Welington left flang. Maybe it was Napoleon plan, and Muton  meet Prussians by accident like in version on this site?

[Alfiere]

I do not think that Napo think to Lobau for attack to east flank.
For Napo the center is 'a must' and do not like complex maneuvers during the battle.
Only if Lobau was deploy at start on the right.... but seems was at the center.

[Jacquinot]

I do not think that Napo think to Lobau for attack to east flank.
For Napo the center is 'a must' and do not like complex maneuvers during the battle.
Only if Lobau was deploy at start on the right.... but seems was at the center.

Look at map before battle Alfiere, what regiments saw Napo on Welington left flang and what regiments on right? On left Welington flank Napo saw only Dutch, Belgian and Hanoverian regiments, on right flank he saw English guard, that why Napo have plan to attack Welingtons left wing and theoretically Muton have order to support d Erlons corps on right flank, but when Muton went to right flank he saw Prussians in Pariswood and attack them. Maybe at this moment Napo knows about Prussians on his right flank and move his attacks to center.  

[Alfiere]

Option 1 is righhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt.    
the drums sound the charge.
the mistery of start deploy is revealed.
the fog disappeared
etc etc

[Jacquinot]

Option 1 is righhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttt.    
the drums sound the charge.
the mistery of start deploy is revealed.
the fog disappeared
etc etc

What option?

[Jacquinot]

About first corps formation: http://www.1789-1815.com/wat_col_1corps.htm

[Alfiere]

Jacquinot,now is enough clear the start deploy.
Follow the historical orders during the battle is much difficult.
 Because any orders is tied to events during battle,any battle is different also the same battle can reach events different with the same orders.
Is enough a little delay or anticipate a attack to make big differences.
The only way is to play a free battle from historical deploy and see how end.
This is what i think.

[Jacquinot]

Jacquinot,now is enough clear the start deploy.
Follow the historical orders during the battle is much difficult.
 Because any orders is tied to events during battle,any battle is different also the same battle can reach events different with the same orders.
Is enough a little delay or anticipate a attack to make big differences.
The only way is to play a free battle from historical deploy and see how end.
This is what i think.
Do you want play a PBEM?

And what start deploy you think right?
I play with micromanagment i dont know how can i play with micromanagment in PBEM. Maybe on-line play.

[Frédéric]

There are testimony that the GB stop to fire to let the Infantry pass for the attack.

Hello Bibouba,

Which testimnies?

Regards

Frédéric

[Jacquinot]

1)View on GB from place where stand Bitland brigade.
2) View from Napo command post.
3) View from GB 600m version on English left wing.