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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #45 le: 03 juin 2010, 22:26:04 pm »
oh i didnt see it , thanks

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #46 le: 03 juin 2010, 22:34:48 pm »
Any questions, feel free to ask!

Since you tried Austerlitz as the Coalition, when you start the tutorials you will probably be playing from the wrong side.  You need to be playing as French for the tutorials, and to do that click Solo, then select Grande Armee, then go back to the main menu without starting a game, then start the tutorials.  This isn't automatic, and I still get caught by it occasionally.

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« Réponse #47 le: 03 juin 2010, 22:46:52 pm »
Any questions, feel free to ask!

Since you tried Austerlitz as the Coalition, when you start the tutorials you will probably be playing from the wrong side.  You need to be playing as French for the tutorials, and to do that click Solo, then select Grande Armee, then go back to the main menu without starting a game, then start the tutorials.  This isn't automatic, and I still get caught by it occasionally.

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funny , i was just about to ask why am i playing the wrong side  :D

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #48 le: 03 juin 2010, 23:31:08 pm »
Practice, Practice, Practice and then Practice some more. Start small before you go big. I've have fought 100's of hours both SOLO and PBEM and I'm still discovering things :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #49 le: 04 juin 2010, 23:19:05 pm »
well i just tried the second tutorial and i was completly lost , so i basically sent my whole army at the austrians but i think theres something bugged with the game because my army wont form a damn line it took my so much time to get a line looking thing and eventhough i set the reserve at zero they STILL have 50% reserve   :cry: but maybe im just a noob and cant make a line ? anyway ...

i moved forward to finally get a battle going ,  and mehhhh i was totally lost ! i tried to get my units close to the enemy cause i thought that would scare them away but the battle became a total mess with some units magically teleporting to other places  :?: i really dont know what happened there but when the battle ended in the analysis it said ( .... ) what does that mean ?

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« Réponse #50 le: 05 juin 2010, 00:19:16 am »
The second tutorial should have had instructions in the tutorial text.  Press ENTER to go through the pages.

Basically, you select your corps commander, left click, select Deploy, then draw a vertical line behind where the enemy forces are.  The line should be about 900 meters long, if I remember right.  Then click on Send in the dialog box and watch what happens.

Good  luck.

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« Réponse #51 le: 05 juin 2010, 10:07:22 am »
The second tutorial should have had instructions in the tutorial text.  Press ENTER to go through the pages.

Basically, you select your corps commander, left click, select Deploy, then draw a vertical line behind where the enemy forces are.  The line should be about 900 meters long, if I remember right.  Then click on Send in the dialog box and watch what happens.

Good  luck.

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i know the instructions pass when i click enter but i didnt understand what it means .... vertical line ? 900 meters ? behind the enemy ? i didnt get it

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #52 le: 05 juin 2010, 13:05:09 pm »
some basic stuff:

for attacks: select the "deploy" order and draw the line (vertical if you're moving from west to east....you can draw that line in any angle you wish though, doesn't have to be vertical, it's only in this case of the tutorial) behind the enemy - note though that the further behind the enemy you draw this line, the more cohesion your corps will lose during this attack

for defense: use the "defend on line" order - and draw whereever you want...to make sure it's established before the enemy attacks it...leave some distance between you and the enemy and give the corps time to deploy for defense! - the exact position will be shown pressing F8 and selecting "tactical display" under "orders".

"diversion"-order is another option to make enemy believe you're going to attack, but you won't...

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try that out, and if you have any further questions....feel free to ask :D
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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #53 le: 05 juin 2010, 15:11:27 pm »
Check the screen shot.  The enemy troops may be in a different place each time, so the instructions to draw the deployment line "east of Stabloss" (which is the small village in the center of the map in front of the French troops) are a bit out of date.  You'll be drawing the line somewhere behind the enemy troops.

After you've clicked on Deploy from the menu, move the mouse to the top of where you want the line, press and hold the left mouse button, drag downward until the number at the bottom of the line is about 900, then release the mouse button.  Click Send on the dialog box. 

Hope this helps, and feel free to ask any more questions.

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« Réponse #54 le: 09 juin 2010, 09:04:39 am »
thanks ! i will try that

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« Réponse #55 le: 16 juin 2010, 10:45:24 am »
hi , my exams finished yesterday so i have time to play , i tried the 2nd tutorial again and ..... im lost again   :(
heres a list of my problems :
1- my units never stay in a line , when the battle starts they fight like free shooter infantry and/or march forward on the enemy
2- they dont kill much when they fire a volley eventhough they are quite close to the enemy
3- my cavalry doesnt obey my orders , i ordered them 100 times to attack the austrian artillery but they didnt move
4-  how can i do a bayonet charge ? a square formation ? or even keep my infantry in 1 neat line ?
5- i think im not using the correct commands , the only orders i gave my troops were to deploy on line and then to attack the enemy

please tell me what orders do you give your troops in a normal battle , that would be helpful

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« Réponse #56 le: 16 juin 2010, 13:39:30 pm »
Dear garudamon11

1- Your infantry probably has skirmishers in front, but they should be formed in a column when they attack. If the attack is repulsed, some less trained units will flee backwards and reform, and then try to attack again, etc. Better trained units are often able to keep the formation and slowly retreat.
2- That is normal. volley exchanges seldom lead to a lot of kills, since muskets were not very accurate by then. That's why the soldiers had to fire together in volleys, so that the cloud of bullets would eventually increase the killing probability. Volleys have a morale effect though and can precede an bayonet charge.
3- Orders take time to be obeyed, and some factors (e.g. morale) may lead to hesitation or refusal to charge. Specially if the unit's officer thinks that they will be uselessly blasted by the enemy artillery.
4- You are the army commander. You are not expected to micromanage your units. Concentrate on the big picture and big maneuvers and let your subordinate corps and regimental commanders decide which is the most appropriate formation in each situation, given the terrain, presence of enemy troops nearby, etc.
5- It might be correct, and probably they tried to do it. But have you carefully chosen the point of attack? Were you weaker or stronger there? Did you send only one corps, or did you support it with envelopment maneuvers (e.g. from cavalry) or a feigned attack by other corps? You should distract the enemy at some place, wait for it to move his troops to defend elsewhere, and then attack at the weakened spot.

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« Réponse #57 le: 16 juin 2010, 15:15:43 pm »
ohhh , i thought i have to micromanage everything .... and about supporting units i never did that cause i thought its useless

what is the preferable speed for a battle ?

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #58 le: 16 juin 2010, 15:19:26 pm »
it all depends on what you want:

1) if nothing's going on something between 06/60 or 10/60 (default for MP)

2) if you're closely watching the fights in 3D I would suggest 20/60 - all the simulations work fine and still the battle moves on

but after all - it's a personal attitude - so I suggest you try it out and see what suits you best  ;)

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Re : should i buy this game ?
« Réponse #59 le: 16 juin 2010, 15:46:17 pm »
Garudamon, One thing I did was print the Manuals and sit down and give them some intensive study. I used Highlighters and FIle Tabs to mark areas of importance. Then I would sit fighting the Tutorials Using my manuals as a reference
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