Something Wrong With Peninsular War 1.1 Baylen Scenario

[Duke of Earl]

Bonjour Mssrs.

Baylen Scenario from Depot Peninsular War 1.1 Full Mod install  .... Solo Mode .... Depot Full Patch  o3b LGDN .... 1/2 3D Scale (very nice) .... Full Screen (1o24 x 768) mode .... ALL French & Spainish units frozen on 2D & 3D map (probably F4 view too, but no check) ....

Old GUI  (and F7 Manual) shows Corps/Unit Orders being executed/received .... map units will not respond to ANY Orders .... Dupont already declared Tactical Winner - Overwhelming Victory .... no Strategic winner .... season and weather changed to 'Historical' .... all French units preset to Neutral Initiative and Offensive Posture  in F7 manual ....

No such problems with Salamanca/Talavera scenarios from Depot Peninsular 1.1  install (and scenarios in Depot Waterloo install too)  .... poor child needs some help .... very frustating ....  

Have not tried Baylen OOB setup yet ....  

Cordialement, DoE

[Duke of Earl]

Bonjour Mssrs.,

Many feeble 'do-it-yourself' fix attempts no good   .... same parameters as before .... so, reinstalled Depot Peninsula War Integrated Mod 1.10  (from HISTWAR flash drive) .... selected solo mode, France side .... chose Baylen scenario .... this time, France and Spain units  in different map positions .... but, at same section of road (always near East river) .... always outside France set-up zone in West  (even when Baylen Map and Baylen OOB's selected) .... all France units frozen on road .... Spain units intermixed  in same area .... much shooting .... France unit > Spain unit  .... Spain unit >France  unit .... France unit  > France  unit ( ) .... casualties and routed units.... Corps & Unit orders being received and executed by LGDN, but no movement on 2D or 3D view.... all for now, must go .... maybe choose Spain side next time    

Cordialement, DoE

[Duke of Earl]

Bonjour Mssrs.,

Many feeble 'do-it-yourself' fix attempts no good   .... same parameters as before .... so, reinstalled Depot Peninsula War Integrated Mod 1.10  (from HISTWAR flash drive) .... selected solo mode, France side .... chose Baylen scenario .... this time, France and Spain units  in different map positions .... but, at same section of road (always near East river) .... always outside France set-up zone in West  (even when Baylen Map and Baylen OOB's selected) .... all France units frozen on road .... Spain units intermixed  in same area .... much shooting .... France unit > Spain unit  .... Spain unit >France  unit .... France unit  > France  unit ( ) .... casualties and routed units.... Corps & Unit orders being received and executed by LGDN, but no movement on 2D or 3D view.... all for now, must go .... maybe choose Spain side next time    

Cordialement, DoE

I did .... nothing .... only 'AI v AI' mode  allows units to move .... so, I can watch the show .... 

[bibouba]

Don't try baylen with the full mod integrated. There is somthing wrong somewhere and I couldn't fixe it.

Yes I know there is a bug but it's normaly the only one.

I think that because spain is the commander in chief in this battle.

[Duke of Earl]

Don't try baylen with the full mod integrated. There is somthing wrong somewhere and I couldn't fixe it.

Yes I know there is a bug but it's normaly the only one.

I think that because spain is the commander in chief in this battle.

Bonjour Msr. bibouba,

A bad scenario bug indeed ....  

I have tried other Spain generals (i.e. Cuesta) as C-in-C  from Spain OOB list (I use OOB Editor, very fast) .... just  for solo Baylen fight (no Scenario) .... no luck also   ....  same results as before .... all France units chained to East road  near bridge .... Spain units in good deployment  to West (but not in France deployment zone) .... all units frozen on map  when game started .... careful MAP analysis in F8 mode .... very clear status of everything ....  

But, I have another idea   .... maybe the MAP is not good .... the set-up (deployment) zones may not have good definitions (except for IA v IA mode) .... so, I investigate and notice there are special files created for MAP .... but, I cannot see into these files (or understand the data)   .... so, maybe this is a MAP problem and MAP needs to be changed a little (with better definition for deployment zones)? ....  

Cordialement, DoE

[Duke of Earl]

Don't try baylen with the full mod integrated. There is somthing wrong somewhere and I couldn't fixe it.

Yes I know there is a bug but it's normaly the only one.

I think that because spain is the commander in chief in this battle.

Bonjour Msr. bibouba,

I suspect you are most correct!!   .... My poor Map Editor was completely broken after I did OOB Editor changes to Spain C-in-C   .... so, I reinstall 03b, PWGM, now all is fine again (status quo)   .... With re-installed Map Editor, I examine Baylen 3D MAP, both big flags are Spain (or Britain) color     .... I examine 2D MAP, deployment zones are good, Spain on East, France on West .... suspicion: must be LGDN bug   .... coding refuses to allow function of new Spain entity ( a very complicated data creation to satisfy LGDN code)   .... how to fix, I don't know since MAP appears good   ....  how did Waterloo team do it, I wonder (i.e. no apparent Britain problems in Spain scenarios or Britain problems in Waterloo/Wavre/Quatre Bras scenarios)?   ....

Also, minor Spain problem in Doctrine Editor (very tricky to select 'Spain' with cursor on Index Page, no sensitivity except on far left of word Spain) .... another minor bug appears ....  

Cordialement, DoE

[Duke of Earl]

Bonjour Msr. bibouba,

OK .... I fix minor Spain problem in Doctrinre Editor with some data file edits   .... but then, all Spain units on 'Baylen' 2d map have orange color  (all Spain 2D unit icons gone)   .... and more, all Spain 3D units in 'Baylen' scenario have no uniform textures (maybe in other Spain scenarios also)   ....

So, I reinstall PWGM and status quo returns as before   .... then, I examine many other data files in Histwar folder (usually the .txt files )   .... I notice many Spain officers and units not fully integrated in certain data files   .... maybe this is causing some problems with Spain scenarios?  ....

Maybe there are also minor Britain bugs  in some Spain scenarios   .... many Britain units get no orders in 'Vimero",  so only 1/2 army engages) and Msr. thilio reports many Britain cannon have no ammunition at beginning of  "Maida' scenario , so they withdraw   .... but, "Salamanca' and Bussaco' scenarios seem OK  for Spain and Britain   .... very strange    .... suspicion:maybe PWGM has incomplete integration in other Histwar data files   .... so, how to fix,  I don't know yet   ....

Cordialement, DoE

[bibouba]

Bonjour Msr. bibouba,

A little more precision ....

I think that the  problem comes from the  base file in language -> oob -> Modds -> french or english. Here you have the list which allow a country to be one side or another by year and to be Chief in command  of an army.

Merci .... I will investigate this base file ....  

Maybe there are also minor Britain bugs  in some other Spain scenarios   .... many Britain units get no orders in 'Vimero',  so only 1/2 army engages ..... and Msr. thilio reports many Britain cannon have no ammunition at beginning of  "Maida' scenario , so they withdraw   .... but, "Salamanca' and Bussaco' scenarios seem OK  for Spain and Britain   .... very strange    .... suspicion:maybe PWGM has incomplete integration in other Histwar data files   .... so, how to fix,  I don't know yet   ....

look strange because this from the game and not from the mod. The mod doesn't manage any ammunition things .

OK ... I will defer on this one  ... but, all Britain units respond and advance when I choose command 'Coalition' in solo 'Vimero' scenario .... also, I examine Vimero OoB, and no Britain units are specified reinforcements .... when I choose command 'Grande Armee'  in solo 'Vimero' scenario, then about 1/2 Britain units do not respond or advance  ....  

Cordialement, DoE