Cannot Make Screenshots During Gameplay

[Duke of Earl]

Bonjour la plupart des Mssrs. instruits,

During Albuera scenario .... with Historical ammunition supply configuration .... 3D view .... Spain Infantry Rgt (Engage/Attack Orders, Heavy Casualties) refused to retreat from position against France Infantry Rgt (column of Companies, Hold Line/Defend Order, firing musket volleys) ....  

3D Action Continued: France Rgt maintains position, Hold Line/Defend Orders effective, STILL FIRING MUSKET VOLLEYS WITH 0 AMMUNITION at Spain Infantry Rgt (Now has 0 men, 0 morale, but visible 3D Line formation with Tattered Flag ) ....  

And more .... when I use 'W' key for screenshot .... I get spyBoard error message ... game locked .... I have to CTRL+ALT +DEL .... thus restart game again from scratch to return to scenario (stored in Histwar 'Save' file) .... so, poor child needs some help with this bug mystery ....  

I know about 'Hold Line - Defend Line ' Infantry bug  ... but, what is this?  

Here is spyBoard text (sorry, no .txt or .jpg image, maybe next time  )

"OS 5 1 2600 2
Pack: Service Pack 3
Version HistWar ************** Version Exe:2.3b0
Mode HSB 0 0 0
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D3DAPP : Pass1
D3DEnum : NbCartes= 1
D3DAPP : Pass2

Driver nv4_disp.dll
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MSamTyp= 0
MSamQly= 0
D3DCD3DSet StartFS:O FoundFS:O FoundW:O isW?:N

D3DAPP : Pass3
D3DAPP : Pass4
D3DParam : W N BBCount 1 MSType 0 MSQlt 0 SwapE 1 ESten 1
D3DParam : Wid= 1024 Hig= 768 Fmt= 21 Frq= 75 PI= 0
Out : BuildPresentParamsFromSettings
Out : CreateDevice Phase!=2
INIT OK Param : 1 0
INIT Device
Sprite
OTSI : C:\HistWarGames\HistWar\Langage\HW\English\SetUp.txt
Lecture C:\HistWarGames\HistWar\Langage\HW\English\SetUp.txt
Lecture C:\HistWarGames\HistWar\Langage\HW\English\Menu.txt
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Extension Modds IndexUnite
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Extension Modds FichTextMesh
Extension Modds Out-FichTextMesh
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Restore In ... Restore Out
D3DAPP : Pass5
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Etat 0
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Lecture Objets
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DLL Exe
Version HistWar *****1*****     Dll: 08/5.3B0
DialogueOut
Fin INIT
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Scene
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Module error= 8 id= 22 D3D= 8007000e
Error File :"

Cordialement, DoE

Cordialement, DoE

[thilio]

This bug of not retreating despite havy casualties (in defense position) was already mentionned and JMM is working on it.

Sorry, i just read your last sentence about this know bug...
It appears you have a lot of problems with the integrated PWM 

Did you already made a reinstall of the game and of the PWM?

[Duke of Earl]

This bug of not retreating despite havy casualties (in defense position) was already mentionned and JMM is working on it.

Sorry, i just read your last sentence about this know bug...
It appears you have a lot of problems with the integrated PWM  

Did you already made a reinstall of the game and of the PWM?

Bonjour (or Bonsoir)  Msr. thilio,

A little more precision ....

No think this is same Infantry Defense Position bug (heavy casualties) ....   .... I know JMM is working on this .... so, I am most patient ....

Observation: Coalition (Britain & Spain) Infantry is advancing against my France Defense Line ....  Coalition Infantry Rgt Attacks France Rgt on Defense Line ('Engages' on my slightly modified ''Langage>English>interne2' file ) .... but it will not Recoil/Retreat or even Rout with 0  men or 0 morale .... Many Coalition 3d figures occupy same position on 3D field (with just a few casualty figures on ground) .... meanwhile, France Infantry (Holding  Defense Line position) .... with 0 ammunition and good morale.... continues frequent firing of musket volleys (from what ammunition? - Historical-Limited Option pre-selected) at WIPED-OUT Coalition Infantry Rgt (according to OLD GUI box on right-lower side) .... and France Infantry do not withdraw ....  

I am using 1/2 scale in PWM scenarios (and all other scenarios too, Waterloo, Austerlitz, Borodino, etc).... and very nice 3D troops I might say ....

I reinstsall patch 03b and then I reinstall integrated PWM several days ago to fix Spain CinC bug  (Baylen scenario broken)   .... all works fine now (no Baylen scenario in folder anymore) ....

My BIG question is what happened to Screenshot function? ....

Also, I cannot attach SAV files to forum messages because it is not allowed format .... anyway, old Albuera scenario SAV file is gone (replaced by new Albuera scenario - with some more strange graphic events!).... so, I guess I must re-learn Beta-Test 'REDMINE" protocols again to submit SAV files.... good way to spend weekend ....  

Cordialement, DoE

[Soldat Louis]

Dear Duke,
I think that the explanation for the ammunition issue is that in the game a unit in defense can collect the ammunition from dead and wounded soldiers. So, even if the displayed amunition level is 0, they might still have enough to fire a few volleys when attacked.

[Duke of Earl]

Dear Duke,
I think that the explanation for the ammunition issue is that in the game a unit in defense can collect the ammunition from dead and wounded soldiers. So, even if the displayed amunition level is 0, they might still have enough to fire a few volleys when attacked.

Bonjour Msr. Soldat Louis,

Merci ....  a most reasonable explanation .... but, what if Defense Rgt has few or no casualties .... do they carry spare bullets in big pantaloon pockets?  ....

Cordialement, DoE

[Soldat Louis]

Ah yes, in this case it is hard to explain

[Duke of Earl]

Ah yes, in this case it is hard to explain

Bonjour Msr. Soldat Louis,

Well .... may be not so hard to explain after all .... because, before I start Albuera scenario, maybe I forget to reset game Options to 'Historical' (limited) ammunition in F7 Manual....  

I usually rely upon Main Menu game Options for these game settings .... maybe LGDN 03b doesn't move these game settings into scenarios? ....  

Cordialement, DoE

[zu Pferd]

Soldat Louis, bonjour !

there have been other instances  of Infantry in defense order not retreating
until they are down to 93 men from 2400, when they finally get up to 'leave the field'
 I've seen it myself on MP games, as well asother testers. My opinion is that it is a bug.
As far as the ammo I proposed ammunition wagons to JMM in a post in the 'Evolution of the Game'
to reflect  historical and unlimited : ammunition wagons that can be captured or blown up
could effect the behavior of artillery fire and musketry fire in a division or a corps...gathering ammo
is not a fictional battlefield behavior    

quote:  I can't make screenshots...

I presume you mean you can`t show the defend to the last man behavior   

[Duke of Earl]

quote:  I can't make screenshots...

I presume you mean you can`t show the defend to the last man behavior   

Bonjour Msr. zu Pferd,

Yes, most correct! .... if this 'super-galvanized' defense bug is not in certain view zone, then screenshot "W' key apparently functions  OK .... just completed a small test without any such 'buggy' behaviour present in current gameplay (or on view screen either) .... very astute observation, I did not know this .... merci .... 

Cordialement, DoE